I'd say only do things because you really want to do them. If doing them contributes to someone else's happiness, that's nice. But doing stuff just to make someone else happy can lead to resentment too easily if you didn't really want to do those things.
Hmmm. It depends on what you're doing to make someone like you. If you are changing the person that you really are and are hurting yourself in any way to impress them, then yeah, that's wrong.
But I don't know that it's a waste of time to invest energy into a worthwhile person. For any relationship to work, it does take some effort on the parts of both people.
You know what actually works better? If you get them to do stuff for you. Then, subconciously they have to justify it. Why am I doing this for her? It must be because I think she's fabulouse!
My take on this is that when we get attached to ANY result rather than enjoying the action for itself, we're setting ourselves up for dissatisfaction. We can never predict the future, and thinking that we can 'make' something happen or someone feel a certain way is just fallacy.
This, to me, is the meaning of that old saw, "It's the journey, not the destination."
If EEK! The Cat taught me nothing else, it taught me that doing stuff for someone - regardless of your intention - can sometimes lead to horribly excruciating pain that can not and should not be described.
That doesn't necessarily mean that I won't help anyone, but sometimes people just don't care what you do for them. Often they'll focus on things you do that they don't like, but that's another rant for another time.
Fuck other people. If they don't like you to start with, that shows bad taste. If they don't like you after you've shown that you are also useful to have as a friend, then that shows stupidity.
Do you like stupid people without taste? I don't think so. So if they don't like you before or after you do stuff for them, they've shown themselves to be below you.
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Date: 2002-07-31 02:13 pm (UTC)Fuckabuncha ulterior motives.
speaking of doing stuff for people...
Date: 2002-07-31 02:14 pm (UTC)I've only been Back from the Dead for a day or so.... ;)
Re: speaking of doing stuff for people...
Date: 2002-08-01 09:09 am (UTC)I'm so glad you're feeling better!
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Date: 2002-07-31 02:15 pm (UTC)However, do nice things for people just for the sake of being nice. Even if it's not appreciated, it's a cool thing to do.
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Date: 2002-07-31 02:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-07-31 02:25 pm (UTC)Don't do stuff for people in an effort to make them like you.
Oh wait, that's buying or cooking things for people in an effort to make them "happy" or let them know I care about them.
Carry on...
(Also extremely ineffectual, but a girl's gotta try.)
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Date: 2002-07-31 02:30 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-07-31 02:36 pm (UTC)really. don't eat three at once (boing!!)
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Date: 2002-08-01 04:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2002-07-31 03:23 pm (UTC)no subject
But I don't know that it's a waste of time to invest energy into a worthwhile person. For any relationship to work, it does take some effort on the parts of both people.
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Date: 2002-07-31 06:13 pm (UTC)it's too bad, no?
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Date: 2002-07-31 06:49 pm (UTC)Never ever hang your happiness on someone else's approval
Date: 2002-07-31 08:57 pm (UTC)This, to me, is the meaning of that old saw, "It's the journey, not the destination."
People suck like that, sometimes...
Date: 2002-07-31 10:39 pm (UTC)That doesn't necessarily mean that I won't help anyone, but sometimes people just don't care what you do for them. Often they'll focus on things you do that they don't like, but that's another rant for another time.
fuck other people.
Date: 2002-07-31 10:55 pm (UTC)Do you like stupid people without taste? I don't think so. So if they don't like you before or after you do stuff for them, they've shown themselves to be below you.