Election postmortem
Nov. 5th, 2008 10:14 amNo, I'm not cut-tagging it. Deal.
The election is over. (And not a minute too soon.)
I volunteered for President-Elect Obama's campaign. I haven't posted anything on LJ about phone-banking for Obama, or canvassing in North Carolina for Obama, because apparently I've decided to let everyone on LJ bully me into censoring myself, but some of the stuff I've seen on LJ this morning... I have to say something.
I have seen several lovely, heartfelt posts this morning that echo Senator McCain's dignified and generous concession speech last night, from people who realize that first and foremost we are all Americans and are willing to give Obama a chance. And I have seen, and not just on LJ, some crazy shit. Bread lines? "Spreading the wealth" as taking money from people who themselves are hurting? Conservatives saying "don't worry, he'll get killed"? Really? There's something called the American ideological consensus, which basically means that the two parties are really a lot closer to the center than anyone gives them credit for. What's up with the Red Terror? We've survived a civil war, two world wars, and a whole lot of other shit; do you really think Obama's election is going to destroy the country? Hell, we all know how I feel about W, and he still hasn't destroyed the country. Can we give America a little more credit?
And here's something I really don't get: So many Republicans say Democrats are lazy and want the government to do everything for them, and then we Obama supporters decide to take responsibility ourselves for what's going on in the nation and get involved, and then the Republicans say that we're in a cult and have clearly been hypnotized and can't think for ourselves. That is an insult to me as an American. (And where were these people when the documentary Jesus Camp showed children praying to cardboard cutouts of W? If that doesn't say "cult," I'm not sure what does.)
The thing that really moves me about Obama is he talks about us, all of us, the United States of America. What's so bad about the country working together to improve things? It's what Americans have done in the toughest times. Can we set aside this partisan insanity and just be Americans for a while, give it a try? If you try it and don't like it, well, then you'll know for the next election.
Also: I am completely pissed off over all the votes for homophobia. I'm just ill.
If you feel the need to defriend me over this post, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
The election is over. (And not a minute too soon.)
I volunteered for President-Elect Obama's campaign. I haven't posted anything on LJ about phone-banking for Obama, or canvassing in North Carolina for Obama, because apparently I've decided to let everyone on LJ bully me into censoring myself, but some of the stuff I've seen on LJ this morning... I have to say something.
I have seen several lovely, heartfelt posts this morning that echo Senator McCain's dignified and generous concession speech last night, from people who realize that first and foremost we are all Americans and are willing to give Obama a chance. And I have seen, and not just on LJ, some crazy shit. Bread lines? "Spreading the wealth" as taking money from people who themselves are hurting? Conservatives saying "don't worry, he'll get killed"? Really? There's something called the American ideological consensus, which basically means that the two parties are really a lot closer to the center than anyone gives them credit for. What's up with the Red Terror? We've survived a civil war, two world wars, and a whole lot of other shit; do you really think Obama's election is going to destroy the country? Hell, we all know how I feel about W, and he still hasn't destroyed the country. Can we give America a little more credit?
And here's something I really don't get: So many Republicans say Democrats are lazy and want the government to do everything for them, and then we Obama supporters decide to take responsibility ourselves for what's going on in the nation and get involved, and then the Republicans say that we're in a cult and have clearly been hypnotized and can't think for ourselves. That is an insult to me as an American. (And where were these people when the documentary Jesus Camp showed children praying to cardboard cutouts of W? If that doesn't say "cult," I'm not sure what does.)
The thing that really moves me about Obama is he talks about us, all of us, the United States of America. What's so bad about the country working together to improve things? It's what Americans have done in the toughest times. Can we set aside this partisan insanity and just be Americans for a while, give it a try? If you try it and don't like it, well, then you'll know for the next election.
Also: I am completely pissed off over all the votes for homophobia. I'm just ill.
If you feel the need to defriend me over this post, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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Date: 2008-11-05 03:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 03:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 04:01 pm (UTC)Okay, the last one maybe not everyone.
I'd have to defriend a lot of people on my list if I did so simply because they didn't agree with my political viewpoint. And then what kind of discourse would I be left with? How can we possibly grow if nobody ever challenges our beliefs?
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Date: 2008-11-05 04:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 04:01 pm (UTC)We put up with 8 miserable years of Bush. We were vocal in our disgust with his administration, and the far right told us to shut up and turned 'liberal' into a bad word. Now they lost and they won't stop whining about it and spewing hate. They don't have to like Obama, but they can at least be constructive in their disappointment. I'm so tired of their hypocrisy and blatant disregard for others.
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Date: 2008-11-05 04:15 pm (UTC)Yes we can. Yes we did!!!
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Date: 2008-11-05 04:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 04:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 04:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 04:23 pm (UTC)I'm struggling with the same thing over on Facebook. I have friends from high school who are so entrenched in their religious beliefs that they are now spewing hatred in their messages. Granted, I'm right there reminding them about what the Bible actually says about God's will and such.
Here's hoping we can heal as a country and heal our presence in the world.
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Date: 2008-11-05 04:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 04:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 04:38 pm (UTC)And thank you for working on the campaign. :- )
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Date: 2008-11-05 04:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 04:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 05:01 pm (UTC)Bingo.
Browsing twitter and facebook at the moment is one part infuriating and one part amusing. I'm seeing messages that are clearly made up (someone claiming they got a death threat from a friend for voting mccain...please) and others that are just plain ignorant, if not horribly ironic (i.e. "..apparently we have learned nothing from history, special thanks goes out to the public school system." I mean, where to start with that one.) Most of what I am seeing is just mean spirited. Its just...telling.
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Date: 2008-11-06 02:09 am (UTC)Well, these days if kids aren't being tested on it, it doesn't get taught. Or it gets taught in a very abridged form. So yeah, it is hard to learn from history--when you don't have time for it.
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Date: 2008-11-06 05:15 pm (UTC)Um, wtf?
Date: 2008-11-05 05:08 pm (UTC)Cheerfully I haven't seen any of this crap. Otoh, a lil picture of the 44 presidents is circulating widely and it's pretty cute.
Cheers. Oh, and CA should go on strike. *shrug*
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Date: 2008-11-05 05:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 05:37 pm (UTC)In all fairness, we have those folks on the left, too. Has Alec Baldwin moved to Canada yet?
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Date: 2008-11-05 06:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 06:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 07:26 pm (UTC)Also, thank you VERY much for your work in the campaign.
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Date: 2008-11-05 08:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-05 08:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-06 12:39 am (UTC)I do not agree with the sentiments you parsed that have been said about Democrats/liberals. Any more than I agree with many sentiments that all Republicans/conservatives (to give all of the labels loosely) oppose abortion, gay unions,that we use church and guns as a crutch for our crazed beliefs. I have heard both sides and oppose them both. None are that cut and dried.
We are all Americans... I hope and pray we can and will survive this latest blitz of the media to fragment us.
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Date: 2008-11-06 02:06 am (UTC)My mother voted McCain, and her attitude is one of "well, let's wait and see how he does." She didn't dislike Obama; she just agreed with McCain more. I think McCain would be ashamed to hear what some of his supporters are saying. And you know what? If you really believe in your man (McCain), then you'll follow his advice and stand behind the new President.
I worked outside a polling place yesterday, telling people to vote no on 2. If people had read the rest of the amendment, they would understand what they were really voting against. But no. The Say Yes people got it into people's heads that this was about gay marriage. I'm still trying to understand why it's anyone's business who someone chooses to live with, and how those two people choose to define their relationship. But oh no, apparently this endangers my marriage. Because gays will come into my house and make me get a divorce!!!
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Date: 2008-11-06 02:06 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-06 06:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-06 09:27 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-07 02:47 am (UTC)Still..those asshats ARE out there...and they do seem to attract the spotlight..but they are NOT the vocal majority they'd like to believe they are.
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Date: 2008-11-07 06:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-11-08 05:32 pm (UTC)But you know I go on Hannity.com forums and the vitriol is worse than anyone here probably knows. Thread after thread about red herrings like the birth certificate, thread after thread with fear-mongering like "he's a secret muslim" and "he has goon squads to silence the opposition" holyfuckme! it was outrageous. and the worst part? The neo-con jackasses keep saying "after 8 years of vitriol from libs about Bush, we're ALLOWED"
Yeah right, you're allowed to be assholes and liars about someone who ISN'T EVEN ELECTED YET because you had to face the truth about your man Bush WHILE he was president!
Sorry neo-cons, yall lose. We criticized Bush DURING his administration because he kept fucking up and then flipping America the finger (as well as the rest of the world)
That doesn't give yall the moral high ground to act like junior high school popularity queens and titter about passing gossip to rival "Heathers"
I'm a libertarian for lots of reasons. I left the dem party because Clinton let me down. Obama has the chance to make me believe again but I'm waiting to see how it works out.
But, I'll NEVER in a million years sympathize with the Repubs. Not since Newt and Robertson and Rove tag-teamed that party into holding the title for "biggest assholes in the world"