Levels of canon (heavy on the Homicide/L&O/Bab5 references)

[kellinator]

Last night TNT was again airing the first Law and Order/Homicide crossover, Charm City/For God and Country, and it hit me at some point near the end: I am convinced that at some point during that crossover Tim Bayliss and Claire Kincaid got it on. Or at least made out passionately in the alley behind the Waterfront.

It got me thinking about the different levels of canon and subtext which relate to interpersonal relationships between characters. They don't have to mean sex but they usually do because what's the big deal about showing two characters are buddies? Shows will usually come out and show that. There are a few types:

• Official Canon: It happened onscreen and there's no denying it. Example: Sheridan and Delynn, Falsone and Ballard *retch*. Personally, I think people are least interested in these because it happened, we know it happened, reading between the lines is much more interesting. (Note: I am still only halfway done with Babylon 5. If you spoil me, I will gut you.)
• Semi-Official Canon: You thought you could read it between the lines, and then one of the head honchos confirmed it in an interview. Examples: Jack and Claire, Susan and Talia, Tim's love for Frank
• Official-in-My-Head Canon: You think you can read it between the lines, nobody's made it official but you're still convinced. Examples: the above-mentioned Tim and Claire, Munch and Kay (at least on his side), Alex and Olivia
• Because-I-Said-So Canon: There's absolutely no evidence, but that's not stopping you. Examples: Most slash, almost anything edie22 writes, anything I write in which Munch and Kay are actually having sex.

So, what are your favorites in the last three categories?

Comments

[renaissancekat.livejournal.com]

Even though you say it's true, I'm still not convinced that Jack and Claire ever did it.

[reannon.livejournal.com]

I go as far as Official In-My-Head Canon. I kind of prefer having a touch of evidence to back it up. Maybe it's because slash never did a damn thing for me.

Oh, and a cute tidbit about Jack/Claire on L&O. Everyone was always going back and forth on did they/didn't they. Then someone (maybe Wolf) confirmed in an interview - after her "death" - that "they did." Which came as a hell of a shock to Jill Hennessy, who said she'd been playing it all along as "they didn't." But not to Sam Waterston, who'd been playing it all along as "they did."

(Personally, I loved that episode. The missed connections in the bar, the "hell with her" that he so clearly didn't mean, "At least she's Irish," and of course the crash... SOOOO tragic. Arguably my favorite episode.)

[edie22.livejournal.com]

if they were ever in the same room, then you can slash them.

Or, hell, if they *could* have been in the same room. =)

[gmslegion.livejournal.com]

The Doctor and Liz, the second Romana, Tegan and Bernice.

Mind, those are the only ones where it makes any sense whatsoever on even a really, really long branch, but, man, get around a "trad" Who fan (as opposed to "rad") and start talking about why the Doctor was so irritable and resigned to death after Tegan left him, and boy howdy can you raise some hackles.

[kimberly-a.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, my favorites are all in fandoms I don't think you're familiar with.

Semi-Official Canon: Wesley and Angel (Angel: The Series -- one-sided crush on Wes's part), Spike and Angel (Angel: The Series -- past sexual involvement)

Official-in-My-Head Canon: Jack and Skaara (Stargate: SG-1 -- because a grown man hugging a teenage boy that much is just too fraught with implications)

I Don't Even Call This Canon: Spike and Xander (Buffy The Vampire Slayer -- this isn't remotely implied by canon, I don't perceive it as canon, but I still enjoy reading the fics for some odd and unexplainable reason)

[gladstone.livejournal.com]

Ha ha! I have no idea what you're talking about.

[noir-moll.livejournal.com]

For what it's worth, apparently Jill Hennessey didn't they ever did it either.

I think the story is that Jill played the situation like they didn't and Sam played the situation like they did. Anyway, in his big-ass coffee table book, His Highness, King Wolf confirmed Jack and Claire had an affair.

I am convinced that at some point during that crossover Tim Bayliss and Claire Kincaid got it on.

Oh, they so did it. There was entirely too much sparkage between them to let it all go to waste.

So, what are your favorites in the last three categories?

Hee. You asked for it. Actually, I'll cover all four categories.

Official Canon: Cassidy and Benson. OK, this one is weird and bears some explanation. Cassidy was the wet-behind-the-ears character on SVU. I think he was meant to be the audience's representation. He was definitely my representation in "Closure". Brian was never a favorite of mine, but my heart broke right along with his when Olivia made it clear she wasn't interested in pursuing a relationship. Dean's hurt puppy look said it all. Given that, I'm glad the tryst never went anywhere. Even though I felt bad for Brian, it was interesting to see the woman being the love 'em-and-leave 'em type.

Semi-Official Canon: Tim's love for Frank is a favorite of mine, too. I love Bayliss and I'm in awe of Pembleton and I loved their partnership, so it just makes sense to me.

Official-In-My-Head-Canon: This is too, too obvious: Alex and Olivia. I worshiped Cabot from the first episode I saw her in, although, I must admit I didn't buy into the A/O 'ship 100% until "Loss." I was a hopeless convert after that and started looking for the least little sign of HoYay during all the reruns. It's amazing how much of it there is if you look hard enough.

Because-I-Said-So Canon: Stabler and Cabot. I loved, loved, loved the antagonism that occurred between them early on. Those shouting matches were so hot. Plus, I got this stubborn idea in my head that Elliot and Alex possibly had a one-night stand after "Execution". And, even if they didn't, I still say those two had UST to burn.

B5 spoilers

[jonnyx.livejournal.com]

The station blows up.
Everyone dies.
Earth is destroyed.
The end.

Wanna know what happens in the regrettably short-lived B5: Crusade series? Or B5 movies like Thirdspace?

[chicating.livejournal.com]

MunchenKay forevah!(I like this so much I had their passion drive them into a garbage dumpster once. Also as a cuffoon homage...link available on request
Tim/Claire
McCoy/Claire- I've never written L&O, but had I? OTP.
Never thought of Stabler/Cabot but I might now. Maybe in the shower.(evil smile)
Faith/Spike on Buffy. Hot, hot.
Logan/Olivette-esp. since I'm the only one who would want Logan/Me.

[phinnia.livejournal.com]

Semi-official: Logan and Olivet. Totally.

[jesshelga.livejournal.com]

I giggled at one of your comments on cleolinda's journal and snuck a peek at your journal. This entry made me giddy! I've been watching season 4 H:LOTS for the first time, and I was convinced that Munch had a raging crush on Kay. I poked around the 'Net for fanfic confirmation but hardly found a thing. Hooray for you!

[eternal-llama.livejournal.com]

Official-In-My-Head canon would be Munchenkay. There's also Munch and Jeffries. I don't care what anyone says, they were into each other. They were totally flirting with each other. I know this because of that sexy little insult war they had going.

I gues Munch/Olivia would qualify as "Because I said so" canon. There's not a whole lot to back it up, but I really like this pairing. I can picture the two of them...comforting each other. They're both so angsty.

[eternal-llama.livejournal.com]

My God that has to be some of the best fiction I've ever read. It's precisely why I'm so apprehensive about writing my own fiction involving Munch. I especially loved that "Fall of a Sparrow" fic. That was beautiful and so bittersweet. I just purchased S4 of Homicide so now I can see all the MunchenKay for myself.

I can't begin to tell you how much I love good writing, especially when it involves characters that I adore.

And I didn't make these icons by the way. They were created by the talented Starlight1221. I'll post some for you:

http://img54.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Pendragon77/mlmirror.gif

http://img54.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Pendragon77/munchonelook.jpg

I requested those two. I got the lines from some French poems.

Here are the rest:

http://img54.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Pendragon77/munchjeffremember.jpg

http://img54.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Pendragon77/livmunch.jpg

http://img54.photobucket.com/albums/v164/Pendragon77/livmunchthere.jpg

Is it the actual style of the icons that you admire or is it the pairing? It would be nice to meet another individual who likes Munch/Olivia and Munch/Jeffries. I keep thinking of Fall of a Sparrow and I'm hoping that someone, if not myself, will write Munch/Olivia with the same kind of passion.