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I was just on the phone with Mom and mentioned tonight's impending departure of a cast member from Law and Order: Special Victims Unit.

Mom: Is that who it is? I saw the promo where the car blew up and I said "Please don't let it be Munch, I don't know if Kelly can handle it right now."

Date: 2003-10-14 04:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sertrel.livejournal.com
Oh well, Law & Order isn't known for its continuity... Since when had Jack McCoy ever been married? Last week, he told Serena that his wife had left him because of too many nights in the office.

Yay for retconning.

Date: 2003-10-14 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com
Actually, that's correct. In McCoy's first episode, Claire commented that he had a reputation for getting involved with female assistants. McCoy snapped back "only three times, and that includes my ex-wife." (Of course, we later learned that he'd only had three female assistants.) He's also made reference to a daughter.

However, Law and Order is definitely not known for its continuity. Then again, the writers are continually losing track of how many times Munch has been married, and they did that on Homicide too. (For the record: four.)

Date: 2003-10-14 04:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sertrel.livejournal.com
Well. I stand corrected.

Rey Curtis, Jamie Ross, and Lenny Briscoe have all had family appear on the show, or otherwise play a role in the story. Have any of the others have had family involved? I know we saw Greevey's family (although not Greevey himself) in one episode of the second season.

Date: 2003-10-14 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com
Who's Greevey? My memory's a little faulty there...

We saw Claire's father (the law school prof) in her final episode. And we've seen Lt. Van Buren's husband and kids a few times. I also seem to remember the episode where Adam Schiff's wife died. Cragen's wife was a flight attendant killed in a plane crash.

Dunno if you've actually seen Homicide or not, but it was revealed in one of the crossovers that Briscoe had a fling with Munch's first wife after their divorce. This explains some of their carping.

Also, there was one episode where Briscoe said he was actually raised Catholic, but I'm certain the writers have forgotten by now.

Date: 2003-10-14 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renaissancekat.livejournal.com
In fact, it was in an episode that aired last night--the KILLALLKIKES episode with the little shits from high school who murdered their Jewish art teacher. Forgive me for not paying closer attention, but Briscoe said that one parent was Jewish but that he was raised Catholic.

Date: 2003-10-14 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com
Yes, that was it. I doubt the writers remember, though.

Date: 2003-10-14 04:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sertrel.livejournal.com
Max Greevey (George Dzunzda) was the senior detective in the first season, killed in the second season premiere and replaced by Phil Cerreta (Paul Sorvino).

Now that you mention it, I do remember Claire's dad, and Lt. Van Buren's husband, though not her kids.

I saw the first crossover, with the white supremacist bomber (played by the actor who now plays Dr. Skoda), where Munch and Briscoe shoot pool, or rather, Briscoe whips Munch's ass. And it was re-visited in the second crossover, where Briscoe mentions Munch's ex again...

Date: 2003-10-14 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com
Yup. I get a huge kick out of Munch and Briscoe's scenes together. And I keep meaning to write a Law and Order: SVU parody with all the characters played by actors who also play characters on Oz doing double-takes at each other.

Date: 2003-10-14 05:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sertrel.livejournal.com
I never saw Oz (no HBO), but from what I recall, a friend of mine simply could not watch SVU because he couldn't see Det. Stabler as a cop, after seeing him on Oz.

Date: 2003-10-14 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com
I will see Oz one of these days. I'll rent it or something. I completely expect it to fuck with my head, tho. [livejournal.com profile] scarcrest says he occasionally gets creeped out seeing Stabler after seeing Meloni play a very different character on Oz.

Date: 2003-10-15 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renaissancekat.livejournal.com
If you think the Chris Meloni switchover will fuck with your head... you can't even imagine the level of creeped-out fucked-up horror you'll experience with the character that Dr. Skoda plays on Oz, Schillinger. Can't. even. imagine.

Sometimes, still, after watching Oz for over three years, when Dr. Skoda appears (particularly after watching an episode of Oz) I get the willies for a moment. And then I remind myself that I like Dr. Skoda--and that it's Schillinger that I despise.

Still, he's a fantastic actor to play two such polar opposite roles.

Date: 2003-10-14 06:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sertrel.livejournal.com
Hmm, so when Jack McCoy started with Claire Kincaid, he had three prior female assistants, and relationships with all of them. Since then, he has had three more female assistants, and relationships with none of them.

I suppose he did blame himself for her accident...

Date: 2003-10-14 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reannon.livejournal.com
They alluded to it a bit once, a few episodes after her death. Claire was killed by a drunk driver, and I think he got a rap on the wrist or something. So when Jack went up against a drunk driver, he, er, applied more than his usual zeal, and someone said something like, "What, is it 'This one's for Claire Kincaid'?"

For the record, my favorite second banana is always going to be Angie Harmon. She was one of the few who stood up to Jack and proved herself as his equal in all things, without moralizing or sleeping with him. I liked Claire a lot, I liked Carey Lowell a little, and I'd like Elizabeth Rohm if they ever let her do anything.

And we're all geeks. Just so we know.

Date: 2003-10-14 08:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sertrel.livejournal.com
Oh, I know. =) BIG. FLAMING. GEEKS.

You could roast marshmallows off the flaming geekiness.

Yeah, I remember that episode. The drunk driver who killed three people with his Jaguar, McCoy abets a material witness to leave the country, and McCoy and a judge seeking to run for DA helps railroad the defendant (the judge also reappears in the season finale).

Claire was my favorite, and Abbie was a close second. (She had me at "No deals for anyone. Let's hang them all.") Next up is Jamie Ross. Serena hasn't impressed me that much, however, I'm willing to write that off as bad scripts. Watching the 1994-1998 episodes, I've realized how much the D.A.'s aspect used to use plot twists, points of law, and important court decisions. Now they just seem to have "crazy wack-ass political defense from left field."

Date: 2003-10-15 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com
Yup, you're right about the wack-ass defenses.

I really didn't like Abby at first because she struck me as being self-righteous and because she talked smack about the ACLU. She did finally grow on me, but then, of course, she left. So far I haven't seen anything to show that the newest one has a personality.

Date: 2003-10-15 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com
I think you're on to something!

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