Last night
sirinek lured me out to Manuel's Tavern for drinks with some of the people from Howard Dean's campaign.
So there I am, tired and hungry, only intending to have one drink because I'm broke and have leftovers for dinner anyway, and the only person at the table who hasn't absolutely decided that Dean's my man. I mean, no offense,
sirinek, but of course the links you've sent me say he's great. A candidate who can't sound good in his own promotional material needs to go back to Candidate School.
But regardless I'm hoping to learn some useful information, so I turn to one of the campaign chairs sitting next to me and say "So what do you think is the key to Dean's early success?"
The guy gives me a glare that clearly says How dare you question the Master!!!!! and says something completely useless like "because he's the best candidate!!" Dude, I know you think that already! Otherwise you wouldn't be here! Tell me something I don't know!
I have concluded:
Second-least useful place to get objective information about a candidate: Said candidate's campaign rally.
Least useful place to get objective information about a candidate: Drinks with candidates' supporters after the rally.
But anyway, then we got to bitching about politics and pretty soon I needed a second drink, and I couldn't drink on an empty stomach so I ordered some food too, and pretty soon I was even broker (is that a word?). But it was fun to hear the Clinton impersonations.
Oh, here's an interesting article about the MoveOn.org primary:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=11948&mode=nested
So there I am, tired and hungry, only intending to have one drink because I'm broke and have leftovers for dinner anyway, and the only person at the table who hasn't absolutely decided that Dean's my man. I mean, no offense,
But regardless I'm hoping to learn some useful information, so I turn to one of the campaign chairs sitting next to me and say "So what do you think is the key to Dean's early success?"
The guy gives me a glare that clearly says How dare you question the Master!!!!! and says something completely useless like "because he's the best candidate!!" Dude, I know you think that already! Otherwise you wouldn't be here! Tell me something I don't know!
I have concluded:
Second-least useful place to get objective information about a candidate: Said candidate's campaign rally.
Least useful place to get objective information about a candidate: Drinks with candidates' supporters after the rally.
But anyway, then we got to bitching about politics and pretty soon I needed a second drink, and I couldn't drink on an empty stomach so I ordered some food too, and pretty soon I was even broker (is that a word?). But it was fun to hear the Clinton impersonations.
Oh, here's an interesting article about the MoveOn.org primary:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=11948&mode=nested
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Date: 2003-06-24 11:25 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2003-06-24 03:02 pm (UTC)i'm on the MoveOn mailing list, and i had in fact been wondering why i received emails from only those three candidates. how perplexing.
also, i just wanted to tell you i share your frustration over the lack of objective information. i read over the MoveOn interviews before voting in the primary, but it really wasn't much help because all the candidates are so obviously aware that they're answering to a left-leaning audience.
i'll take a stab at your unanswered question though, with the caveat that i am doing so with only the most cursory information about any of the candidates. in my unsolicited opinion, dean has been successful because he comes off as refreshingly liberal... not just in ideology, but in (what is at least perceived as) practice. i had heard of howard dean in passing, back when vermont passed the gay marriage thing.... so by the time i heard he was running in the presidential primary, i was delighted because i already had formed positive associations between his name and the success of an issue i strongly support. so even if the real credit for said gay victory belongs to the voters of vermont, i find myself favoring dean as their representative.
whether this makes any strategical sense or not, i have no idea. i have a hard time voting based on strategy, especially because my conscience usually favors someone quite unlikely to win (i.e. ralph nader). *sigh* the psychology of politics is a curious thing.
lastly, HI! i'm a friend of missrachael's, and sometimes, i tend to ramble uninvited. =)
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