kellinator: (crime by chicating)
kellinator ([personal profile] kellinator) wrote2005-05-31 02:19 pm

extremely half-assed political post

Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday he was offended by Amnesty International's condemnation of the United States for what it called "serious human rights violations" at Guantanamo Bay.

Bitch, please. I'm offended by corporate greed, needless death, and the complete inability to understand that you're not always right -- i.e., everything you stand for -- and I don't see you giving me an apology.

President Bush called a human rights report "absurd" for criticizing the United States' detention of terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and said Tuesday the allegations were made by "people who hate America."

Gee, I love this tactic of yours of repeating something until it becomes true. How many times do I have to say you're an irrational, frightening little ideologue who clothes himself in the language of Christianity while completely ignoring its messages until people will believe me?

These two have got to go in the Bitch Please Hall of Fame, founded this morning for completely unrelated reasons.

Seriously, can you imagine the outcry if Bill Clinton had declared "I frankly just don't take them seriously" about Amnesty International or another similar group? The United States is supposed to be beyond reproach on these issues -- that's what makes us the United States. If we've now reached the point where simply being the United States is an excuse for not following the rules, then I fear for my country.

Hmmm.

[identity profile] scarcrest.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
If we've now reached the point where simply being the United States is an excuse for not following the rules, then I fear for my country.

Ummm...

Did you ever read Garth Ennis' The Unknown Soldier, by any chance?

And you're absolutely right about the double-standard. If Bill Clinton or Janet Reno did 1/1000th of the filthy deeds perpetrated by the Bush Crime Family, we would have had SUVs loaded with assault weapons crashing the White House gates.

Re: Hmmm.

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, haven't read that one. I'm kinda surprised I even made the effort to make this post, considering I've given up on politics out of sheer self-preservation. There are enough things threatening to make me snap.

Like the icon? Courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] chicating.

Re: Hmmm.

[identity profile] scarcrest.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, yeah, I do like that. I like it a lot.

Didn't you send me a fanfic once where he was questioning Dick Cheney?

And you should read Unknown Soldier. It, like V for Vendetta, sadly becomes only more relevant with the passage of time.

Re: Hmmm.

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I did. [livejournal.com profile] chicating also wrote that fanfic. She's good.

[identity profile] orfeo517.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Dick Cheney...I'd be offended too if I were a man who, so far, has miraculously avoided the fate of Enron's top cockroaches, even though his own company is (or was) being investigated for the same kind of dealings. Don't even try to tell me that he has nothing to do with his former company now, and that he has no stock in it. Hell, this prison-abuse-scandal stuff must be pretty easy to handle after the corporate-scandal stuff.

If we're in a nation run by corrupt corporations, religious zealots and grudge-beholden ideologues, I'd at least like to be told, so that I can move to Costa Rica, or maybe Italy, where it's at least a little simpler. Whatever happened to the media being the watchdogs of the government? The watchdogs have rolled over and are now playing dead. I'm being told nothing of importance by the US media. THAT'S what really pissing me off. They're not saying what this war has cost us so far. They're not telling us that this war isn't over. They're not telling us that this war isn't even a war, that it's a decision reached by a political think tank, the Project for a New American Century, years before 9/11. They're also not telling us that this group of people, including Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney, wrote about staging "theater wars" to establish the dominance of the US in the modern world. They actually wrote that!





[identity profile] jerel.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't bother to look at American news sources for news about America. I watch the local station only for stories about schools (I work in education) and get all my other news from the BBC and the Irish Times.

[identity profile] orfeo517.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh! I love the icon. I haven't seen much of the show it came from, but I'm a big fan of Hugh Laurie from Black Adder and Jeeves and Wooster.

Anyway, it's pretty sad that I can't look for reliable, objective news in my own country. I look to World Press, BBC, etc. Anything not owned by large American corporations who stand to gain from decisions made by their friends in high places in this administration.


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[identity profile] orfeo517.livejournal.com 2005-06-01 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've heard about Berlusconi (sp?). I heard Tracy Ullman talking about how he has his hands in just about every business in Italy. She joked about wearing a Berlusconi-brand bra. Damn! I've always dreamed of owning a little house in the hills in the middle of Italy.

I'm not sure which is worse: Having a few large, government-serving corporations dealing out the vast majority of the news we get or the simple fact that most Americans either don't know or don't care. If some reliable source revealed that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were all actually invaders from another planet hell-bent on harvesting our brains for an intergalactic fast-food franchise, Fox News and CNN would somehow convince the American people that it's no big deal, and that it's unpatriotic to resist these benevolent aliens. Ann Coulter would ask "What do you need your brains for anyway? Half of you voted for Kerry!" Then she'd take off her human mask to reveal a hideous bug-eyed monster.



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[identity profile] orfeo517.livejournal.com 2005-06-12 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Heh! Yeah, "right" and "privelage" are two very different things. We're so fucking spoiled.

[identity profile] bast2.livejournal.com 2005-05-31 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
How many times do I have to say you're an irrational, frightening little ideologue who clothes himself in the language of Christianity while completely ignoring its messages until people will believe me?

WORD!

I'm not an anarchist. I'm not the antichrist... am I?

[identity profile] spikepage.livejournal.com 2005-06-01 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Here are the facts as I percieve them.

The only reason people ascend to the Presidency or even to the lower levels of national politics is by making the majority happy. This is done through endless compromising or through dodging the hardball issues altogether. Therefore it is safe to say that most politicians are either spineless amoebas or they are heartless bastards. We all have heard the stereotypes about which side of the fence they come from so I won't add any more fuel to the fire.

Religious leaders are not immune from hypocracy either. Most are either god-loving people who have achieved their level of righteousness through seperating themselves from the lay, or by having once been so immersed in sin and self-indulgence that they consider themselves the authority on soul redemption.

Mix religion and politics and nothing good will likely result.

Now throw in nationalism and culturalism. Give it a podium and one hour of airtime on CNN and it'll likely make an ass of itself no matter what party it belongs to.

I vote we say "Screw this noise" and go have a beer. Some things will never change, but when the revolution begins, I would prefer being drunk.