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kellinator ([personal profile] kellinator) wrote2004-08-27 11:11 am

blatherings about music and love vs. obsession

I am really digging the '90s at 9 on 99X. Yes, I know it's a little early to be getting nostalgic over the '90s, but who am I to complain when I can drive to work bopping along to "Mysterious Ways"?

So one of the songs they played this morning was "The Distance," by Cake. And once again it hit me why I think that is a really good song, though it's not the catchiest Cake song or even anywhere near my favorite Cake song (that would be "Rock and Roll Lifestyle", duh). It's this line:

in his mind, he's still driving, still making the grade
she's hoping in time that her memories will fade


The whole song is about this guy who's trying to get this girl back, like so many other songs, but unlike all those other songs, we get her perspective in that one line, and it's so unexpected and awful. Maybe it gets me because I so identify with that line, hell, the song could be about the email my ex whose name I will not speak sent me last winter.

It never fails to amaze me how many people miss these things. How many chicks in the '80s swooned over "Every Breath You Take" (also known as "The Stalker Song") and played it at their weddings?

I knew these girls in college who were stupid. Don't get me wrong, intellectually they were very bright, but they wouldn't have known irony if it had crawled out of an O. Henry short story and bitten them on the ass. However, whenever they didn't get irony they held it up as an example of how much smarter than I was they were because they weren't majoring in English. They also used the fact that they came up Thinkers and I came up a Feeler in personality tests to show how much smarter they were. Never mind that they were the ones who got married too young and I was the one who gave up love for career (and we all know how well that turned out...) In fact, one of them got married in the single white-trashiest wedding I have ever attended, and coming from Pulaski that's saying something. The wedding was in her father's backyard and he raised rabbits, so the whole wedding stank of bunny poo. I had highlights put in my hair right before the wedding and they lasted longer than the marriage did... But I digress. Anyway, these chicks would listen to Sarah McLachlan's song "Possession" and just goo-goo over how romantic it was, ohmigawd, and I would be sitting there going "You guys do realize that she wrote this song about the guy who was stalking her, right?"

And they said I was the one who couldn't think.

[identity profile] rocketmelee.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
Not that I ever forgot, but this entry reminds me of how cool I think you are.

Of course, that may be because I can totally identify with almost all of it, from the people not getting irony to Thinker/Feeler superiority to Weddings That Should Never Have Been... was the bunny-poop wedding the one I was at? With the fly-covered barbeque?

Speaking of redneck-y weddings, if my friend Jules had gotten her way, she'd be getting married in Tiger Stadium, which is redneck in a somewhat different fashion. (As it is, she's getting married on campus in the LSU chapel, and the groomscake is going to baked in the shape of tiger stadium and decorated accordingly). At least her colors aren't purple and gold.

And, you know, I love Cake. But my favorite song is Madly. At least today. My favorite Cake song tends to shift, depending on which of their albums I've last listened to.

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, you were at that wedding!! Wasn't it an absolute train wreck?

I think you're hella-cool too. And yes, that is an awesome song. One of my favorites.
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[identity profile] unanon.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Now I want to pull out my old Cake CDs, thank you very much.

Personally, I always thought Sarah McLachlan's Possession was the perfect fan-song for DarkAngsty! Tom Riddle/Ginny Weasely fic. Potterdom has obviously twisted me.

Also, the image of backyard bunny-poo weddings will haunt me all day. You truly ARE evil.

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
Damn straight I'm eeeeeevil!! And I'm damn good at it, too!!

[identity profile] canciona.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
It never ceases to amaze me that people think they're smarter if they're less emotional. It boggles the mind, really. Not to mention, they've been talking about the greater importance of EIQ for like a decade now, haven't they? *shakes head*

Erm, we'll have to disagree about Cake, though. *shudder* If that were what Eddie was talking about when he said "cake or death", I might have gone with the latter...

That's just me, though. :)

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
Amen to that. Oh well, I have a feeling we'll have the last laugh at those people...

[identity profile] canciona.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 10:51 am (UTC)(link)
True. Reminds me of a favorite quote:

"Those who do not know how to weep with their whole heart don’t know how to laugh either.”-Golda Meir

:D

[identity profile] canciona.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
And btw, I still love that icon. No matter how many times I see it, it cracks me up!

[identity profile] lunza.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
You could always go around quoting Myers and Briggs, who specifically say that merely being a thinker does not make a person more intelligent than a feeler. Preferring to think says nothing about the quality of the thinking.

[identity profile] canciona.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 10:55 am (UTC)(link)
True. Not that they'd listen.

*sigh* Sorry, don't mean to be such a pessimist; I've just spent a lifetime of dealing with this crap from my mother, who, having a bachelor's in psych, really ought to know better!

Thanks. :)

[identity profile] lula-fortune.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
I am reminded of the time a friend of mine chose to play Paul Westerberg's Somebody at her wedding, like directly after the ceremony to walk back down the isle to.

Um. Yeah. I wonder if she ever REALLY listened to the lyrics.

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:37 am (UTC)(link)
Get the Clue Bat! ;)

[identity profile] the-missy.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently my brother-in-law (Destructo's bro), who got married before I met Destructo, had the most fascinating song for their wedding.

Their theme was the Linda Ronstadt/Aaron Neville collaboration "Don't Know Much".

Sums up lumpy bro and his lumpy bride just perfectly.

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:51 am (UTC)(link)
I have a VERY funny mental picture of your in-laws now...

[identity profile] spiritchaser1.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
Love your POE icon! :)
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2004-08-27 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
My fondest memory of "The Distance" is a secondhand memory. Someone's little brother was listening to this on the radio while riding on a bike, and managed to slam into a tree with amusing effect at some appropriate place in the song.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2004-08-27 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
It was an obnoxious little brother who had been Asking For It, so I don't feel too bad about laughing at his misfortune.

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand that. ;)

[identity profile] lunza.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:54 am (UTC)(link)
It's amazing how people just don't listen to the lyrics. Everyone thought "Born in the USA" was this great patriotic song because the album had Bruce Springsteen's butt in front of an American flag.

And speaking of Springsteen, ever hear the one about the New Jersey legislator who wanted to make "Born to Run" the state anthem?

Baby this town rips the bones from your back
It's a death trap, it's a suicide rap
We gotta get out while we're young


That may fit New Jersey, but I doubt it's the image they want to project.

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
Hee hee hee... silly politicians...

[identity profile] jerseygirl1.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
I *love* Springsteen... don't get me wrong at all when I say this, BUT....

Every time he performs that song in concert I sit down. It isn't against Bruce, but the dumbasses around me who think it is a patriotic battle cry!!! I hate the perception of that song, and cannot stand to listen to it.

Now, Badlands, Jungleland, Hungry Heart, The Rising... that is a different story

[identity profile] wacko1138.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The blues version of Born in the USA off of Tracks is my favorite for just that reason, finally the music matches the lyrics

[identity profile] phinnia.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
There was someone on my friends list a few days ago that was actually talking about this kind of thing - bad first songs to play at someone's wedding.

Some of the listed ones:
Fifty Ways to leave your lover (Paul Simon)
You're Breakin' My Heart (Harry Nilsson)
Song for the Dumped (Ben Folds Five)
Jackhammer Rape (Type O Negative)
Thunder Rolls (Garth Brooks)
etcetera. I've been at more than a few weddings where that last one was played, especially. *headdesk*

[identity profile] rocketmelee.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
I have a friend (not the Tiger Stadium friend that I mentioned earlier in this thread) who is playing Back That Ass Up as the bride/groom first dance. Her mother talked her out of using the Discovery Channel song.

[identity profile] phinnia.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
*boggles*
That's just /wrong/.

Re: Discovery Channel song

[identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that would be a wonderful and appropriate first song for a wedding. Or possibly the last song before the bride and groom leave the reception...
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Re: Discovery Channel song

[personal profile] azurelunatic 2004-08-27 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That song, on repeat while having sex, is just ... odd.

[identity profile] spiritchaser1.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
"Rock and Roll lifestyle" is my fave Cake song, followed by "Frank Sinatra".

Being stalked and harassed is not cool. I listen to the lyrics of some of these songs and realize they are NOT a story I want to be a part of, but I can still enjoy them as music and poetry. Those silly little bubbly codependent college lust bunnies might have to find out the hard way, unfortunately. Then again, so did I...and I was an English major, too. ;)

[identity profile] sujata.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 10:48 am (UTC)(link)
*blink*

These chicks didn't understand that "tied down to this bed of shame" is NOT a happy, romantic statement?

Not only are you smarter than them, sweetie, but they need brain transplants just to qualify as homonids.

Re: songs of irony

[identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, being a bit of a Sarah addict, I get very amused at people thinking of Possession being a romantic song. Then again, they think that Angel is about spiritual angels too...

Then, of course, is song that sounds like a love song from Al Yankovic...

Re: songs of irony

[identity profile] sujata.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Then, of course, is song that sounds like a love song from Al Yankovic...

Speaking of which, "One More Minute" would be another totally wrong song for someone to play at their wedding. :-D

[identity profile] kelvinator.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's *not* too early to nostalgize the 90's! Just as long as nobody touches the period from '88 to '91 - that is a truly evil period in world music history.

And about stupid people - I like Leonard Cohen's tongue-in-cheek line: "We are ugly, but we've got the music.." ... at the risk of generalizing broadly, I think most of your readers may very well be cut from the same mold - kids who could read, can think, cut through the looks-centered superficial stuff ... steer away from being shallow, self-centered and vapid.. I dunno. Honk if this rings a bell.. :) (but then again I might be talking oot me arse). What I'm trying to say is that we may not get the benefits of fitting into the shallow mold, but we get LOTS more toys to play with :)

*sing* Sad songs and waltzes aren't selling this year...

[identity profile] flewellyn.livejournal.com 2004-08-27 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I know a couple who danced their first dance at their wedding to Tom Lehrer's "When You Are Old And Gray". In this case, though, they assuredly knew the irony.

Yes, they did have "The Masochism Tango" on later.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2004-08-27 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
*ahem*
"Hit Me, Baby, One More Time."
*/ahem*

[identity profile] stevietee.livejournal.com 2004-08-28 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
My wife still thinks that McLachlan story is sweet and romantic even after I told her it was about a guy who was stalking her.

:shrug:

[identity profile] buckthorn.livejournal.com 2004-08-29 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
Had a cousin get married and the main song they played was a short bit of "My Immortal" by Evanessance... Yeah.