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kellinator ([personal profile] kellinator) wrote2003-03-17 11:23 am

Time to put your head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye

Bush to address nation:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/17/sprj.irq.main/index.html

My cousin David is a Navy chaplain with three young children. They won't tell us where he's stationed, but we believe it's Kuwait. Apparently he has a lot of soldiers coming in wanting to talk.

What I'd like to know is, if Bush is so certain this is worth risking lives for, why isn't he out there on the front lines?

[identity profile] candy-angel.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
because its only worth risking lives of people he doesn't know

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
Damn fucking straight. Check my Michael Moore post for the dirt on just how many members of Congress have children in the military.

Chicken hawks

[identity profile] scarcrest.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
You've read Al Franken's story "Operation Chicken Hawk." Bush is a child of privilege, so he's above menial things like warfare.

But the real reason he'd never go to the front line of a war in an Islamic state -- and the reason his twin daughters would never go -- is because there's no booze there. (We're much more likely to see them in a Girls Gone Wild video.)

Re: Chicken hawks

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
Heh... Check out this link that a coworker sent me this morning:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/03/17/hsorensen.DTL

Well....

[identity profile] the-yellow-king.livejournal.com 2003-03-17 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
....technically, he can't go to the front lines. He's not allowed. Ever since WWII, there has been a very distinct thing in military command - Presidents, even if they are the CIC, don't go near the front lines. They stay their ass in Washington. Why? Well, with the new age of tactical nukes, chemical and biological warfare, large-scale bombs - heck, everything they developed during the Cold War - it's too easy to cap the President outside of his home country. Hell, the SS -sweats- when he has to go to Canada.

This is why, for instance, when 9-11 happened they stuck Dubya on Airforce One and had him flying about and totally incommunicado with everybody [Except for the usual SAC communication and the initiating of us going down a few levels in DEFCON. We came a sliver away from nuking the MidEast in retaliation; Dubya made the call not to until we had more information. We did not want to irradiate Mecca till we were sure.]. Wasn't Bush being a coward - it's Standard Operating Procedure for every President since Truman. Makes ya feel warm and cozy, don't it, that if we all die in nuclear conflagration the upper levels of the government and a whorking portion of the military will be safe and sound.

Also, the same applies for Bush's daughters - they will not be allowed to join the military at this time or any other time until Bush is out of office. Too much chance for "incidents" to occur if they went off to war or some bullhockey. They'd become a prime target for America's opposition [of which we don't have a lack for, thanks to our previous foreign policies].

All that lifts, however, for his kids once he's out of office.

Re: Well....

[identity profile] sujata.livejournal.com 2003-03-18 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
He was allowed when he was a young man, however. Yet all sorts of strings were pulled to ensure he wasn't sent to Vietnam (sp? sorry, brain is sore from final exams, please excuse me for any spelling mistakes, typos, etc.!). Indeed, he didn't even complete his term of service in the Air National Guard, or whatever the hell it was. (Please excuse also my foggy memory. I know his service record was incomplete and that there were shady maneuvers employed to prevent him from being sent into combat. I'm just too sleep-deprived right now to trust myself to accurately report the details of which branch of service he was in and which shady maneuvers kept him out of action.)

So while you are correct in stating that he isn't permitted to participate in combat now, as President, you are wrong to imply that he'd fight if he could. His own service record proves the man has no courage...unless it's somebody else's blood in danger of being shed.

Re: Well....

[identity profile] the-yellow-king.livejournal.com 2003-03-18 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
My apologies if you think I meant to imply that he would fight on the front lines; as you have so excellently pointed out, he avoided service in Vietnam. [1] I don't think he would go on the front lines as it is. I was merely pointing the political/logistical/etc reasons as to why he doesn't go to the front lines, even to visit and rally troops and all that. Kind of a far cry from the days of FDR, really.

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[1] To be fair, Bush is not the only rich kid that got out of it. So did Clinton and a host of other rich kids of the time on both sides of the political fence. The wonders of money!

Re: Well....

[identity profile] kellinator.livejournal.com 2003-03-19 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
Say what you will about Clinton, he was not a rich kid. His avoidance had a lot to do with a certain thing called being an Oxford scholar.